Report on Laguna Hills City Council Meeting on
10-27-15 re. Agenda item 6.2 - Overview and Update on OC Animal Care Operations
and New Shelter Update.from the South County Animal Shelter Coalition, Jean
Bland
Council Member Andrew Blount was absent from this meeting.
An overview on the animal shelter problem was presented by
Laguna Hills' Assistant City Manager Don White who
informed us that after 74 + years of using the same county animal shelter
structure in the City of Orange; and after 20+ years of promises from the Orange
County Board of Supervisors (BOS) whom the OC Grand Jury said have "been
keenly aware of the real and immediate need for a new shelter facility";
and after the City of Laguna Hill's response to the last scathing Grand
Jury Report about the current state of the County Shelter stating that the City
was going to consider both the County Shelter and other options, the County is
now warning Laguna Hills and other cities that they need to make a solid
financial commitment to a proposed new county shelter by about April 1, 2016 or
our City will be "OUT" related to a loss of County Animal Care
Services for 2 years or more. Don White added that if
our City is "OUTED" by the County, we would need to have another animal shelter
commitment formally in place by July 1, 2017 or the County will terminate
services and we will be left with none. The County has also provided current
contract cities with a range of possible shelter cost
allocations based on project costs of $20M, $25M, and $30M depending upon the
size of a new shelter. For Laguna Hills, this would
mean a contribution of $249,000 if $20M, $332,000 if $25M, and $415,000 if
$30M. The commitment the County will be seeking includes a
financial contribution to the shelter’s construction costs and a long-term
contract, likely ten years.
Council Member Don Sedgwick responded that the
County is growing all the time so they should be looking at more room at a new
shelter regardless of the number of cities that may pull out now. He continued
that it sounded like the OC Grand Jury may have had a significant impact on the
county or the County is just gaming us again as they have been for the past 20
years.
Assist City Manager Don White added that
he does believe the County, this
time, regarding their commitment to expedite construction of a new
shelter 12.7 miles from Laguna Hills on a 6.7 acre shelter site because the
County has now chosen a piece of land for the shelter site that is free from
contamination, therefore environmental clean-up of contamination on
the site, from the Navy, is no longer a problem. White said the new site is
land currently owned by the So. OC Community College District and the college
district is willing to agree to a land swap. According to White the land
acquisition will be completed by 1/11/2016 and the Grand opening for the new
County Animal Shelter will be 9/2/2017. Others at this council
meeting stated that this land swap has already been on the table for two years
without resolution.
Mr. Tom McCabe, spoke during Public
Comments. Tom identified himself as one of the members of the Orange
County Grand Jury who served on the Grand Jury 2014-2015, and was a participant
in the report - IF ANIMALS COULD TALK ABOUT THE ORANGE COUNTY
ANIMAL SHELTER - The Facility, the Function and the Future. This report began
with the following quote - “Ever occur to you why some of us can
be this much concerned with animals suffering? Because government is not. Why
not? Because animals do not vote.” Paul Harvey.
See this Grand Jury Report at - http://www.ocgrandjury.org/pdfs/2014_2015_GJreport/1415_Final_Report.pdfTom reported that this "land swap" issue re. the land for a new
County Shelter, is still held up and he has no idea of how it could be ready by
the end of the year, as the Navy was unwilling to commit to when the property
could be clean the lst time he spoke with them.
Laguna Hills resident Tom Epperson also
spoke and noted that as far as he knows, the target property is clean but the
community college district is unwilling to let it go until a land swap can be
achieved, so there appears to be no real commitment here.
Mayor Pro-Tem Barbara Kogerman stated
she read all 185 pages of the 11 staff reports on this issue and was very
disappointed in that this report indicates poor staffing, poor decision making,
poor veterinary care, poor shelter staff morale. In addition there are serious
staffing issues noted, short 9 field officers, sanitation issues at intake
related to not cleaning between animals. Also Poor management practices, no
Chief Veterinarian on staff until 2 years ago and staff can override decisions
of Veterinarians. None of these animal shelter issues appear to have been
addressed in new reports and she added that volunteers at the County Animal
Shelter are not allowed to perform any of the duties of the shelter staff. She
also noted that if residents take their pets to the County Shelter to be put up
for adoption, they are required to sign a paper stating that they are giving
permission for euthanasia of their pets as well and then those pets are
considered to be "owner relinquished for euthanasia".
Kogerman noted that Lake Forest has
identified Normandale Park as a possibility for a shared shelter with Laguna
Hills. This item is waiting to be agendized at a Lake Forest City
Council Meeting, and added that Mission Viejo has offered to give us
a proposal for Animal Care Services again now. She noted that the
issue of indemnification that was brought up in 2005 does NOT appear to be a
problem as the contract wording for that in Mission Viejo's contract with member
cities is exactly the same as the wording in the County Shelters contracts with
their member cities.
Kogerman proposed that Laguna hills continue to work with Lake
Forest and request a proposal for animal care services from Mission Viejo rather
than just bend over to the County.
Council Member Carruth stated how disappointed she
was in Jim Gardner, Council Member from Lake Forest
regarding him not here being here tonight to assist in this discussion.
Mayor Pro-Tem Kogerman explained that she asked
Jim not to attend because she didn't want it to appear that Jim was directing
them related to what action to take and apologized to the council if she made
the wrong decision re. Jim.
Council Member Don Sedgwick said time is running
out but he does not want to preclude Lake Forest and Mission Viejo and wants to
hear what they have to say while we still have some time. He added
that regarding a new County Facility why not demand new management with a new
shelter and at least in the beginning get a citizen oversight committee started
to assist with that.
Mayor Dore Gilbert suggested a 2 step
process with Mission Viejo asking key questions of concern first based upon
higher fee and indemnity issues, then decide on request for proposal related to
answers to those key questions. He commended Jim Gardner, Lake Forest City
Council Member for his efforts to date and requested the door to remain open for
further discussion.
Mayor Pro-Tem Kogerman made a motion to
keep the 3 choices open, request answers to their questions from Mission Viejo
and keep a dialogue open with Lake Forest as well as the County but don't drag
feet. Explore all options as said we would do in our response to the last Grand
Jury Report on the County Shelter and try to get answers to just a few questions
from Mission Viejo before the next council meeting.
All council Members agreed except
Council Member Carruth who noted that she has supported
the County since 2008 and continues to do so. She also mentioned the
Equestrians. Assistant City Manager Don White noted
earlier in the meeting that if the County loses Laguna Hills that would
not be anything significant related to building a new shelter because Laguna
Hills is such a very small portion of their business.
The South County Animal Shelter Coalition learned in
2013, while investigating local animal shelter's that the Laguna
Beach Animal Shelter also has been faced with the problem of large animals,
including horses, in their city that occasionally need shelter services and they
have an agreement with the County Shelter to handle these animals.
During this meeting Council Member Kogerman also stated - It is also important to note that various Grand Jury Reports chastised the County for being grossly understaffed and OCAC answered they had requested additional funding for more staff and were routinely denied. What will happen to our costs when and if the county decides to adequately staff the new shelter? Given the county's apparent commitment to improve service, isn't it obvious that past costs are no predictor of future costs?
During this meeting, Assistant City Manager Don White stated that he has served on the County Shelter's Financial and
Operational Advisory Board for 7 years and noted that the County is responsive
to the suggestions of the members of that board related to many matters,
including capital expenditures. ***
An important and relevant question, to which we should have answers,
regarding Assistant City Manager Don White's service on the County Shelter
Advisory Board would then be how much of an impact did Don White have on that
County Board over the past 7 years?
What suggestions/recommendations were advocated by Don
related to increased safety and care for animals at the shelter, better services
for residents of member cities, shelter maintenance including repairs and
improvements, etc.? Also over the past 7 years and which of Don's suggestions
were actually implemented?
Multiple Orange County Grand Jury Reports
over recent years of so many significant problems in every aspect of the Orange
County Shelter operations including the structure have been devastating. We are
very grateful to the OC Grand Juries for monitoring this so well and diligently
for all of us and we all need to be reminded that there are occasional
capital maintenance expenditures involved in maintaining facilities properly and
maintaining quality of services. Mission Viejo and all other respectable animal
shelters that are concerned with care and services regularly maintain their
facilities as needed rather than allow them to disintegrate. So, residents and
council members need to consider whether just the cheapest service has been and
continues to be the standard for Laguna Hills of if safety, quality, and
convenience including proximity of service are important for residents and their
pets.
South County Animal Shelter Coalition - Jean
Bland
7 comments:
Thanks for the update. How can they not see that Don White has a conflict of interest? The council should either have another staff person on this or pull white from the county project. I am so glad Carruth is term limited. Hopefully Barbara et al are lining up a candidate(s) to replace her who are willing to continue pursuing a better non-county solution.
Don White --- what a weasel! Where was the mighty Channing?
Since White has been on the advisory committee for so many years, why did he not inpact the shelter to be more animal friendly with better management? If the shelter had improved there would not be such a huge demand to leave the county. I hope the council DOES NOT make him the city manager when Channing retires soon. If White can not be a leader and an influencer with OC Anaimal Care, we sure do not want him as our city manager .
It's very sad that so many animals needs homes these days. It would be much better if this problem could be solved a different way, educating people to stop breeding animals and adopt instead.
Best to you always
Jean, Thank you for putting out the information on the shelter. I would like to see Laguna Hills go with the Mission Viejo shelter. 2 month ago I had to put down my 11 yr. old cat that I had rescued
from my planter. So young she fit in the palm of my hand. She ended up at 16 lbs. wonderful cat was probably half ferrel. I priced the vets here to do it. $165. and up. so I drove to the Orange county
shelter. Took me over an hour in bumper to bumper traffic. Only 20 min. to get home. Waited for 15 or 20 minutes for the counter to help me. The person was very kind and helpful. Very busy place that afternoon. I am now 86 years old. It was a big trip. That is why I think that we should go with Mission Viejo shelter as we should have done a few years back. I did question about Don White having a conflict of interest and was told at that time he didn't have any connections with the Orange shelter. So here we are again.
I just re-read the last 2 Grand Jury Reports about the County Animal Shelter in addition to the report from SCASC and was vividly reminded what a disgrace this place has been for so many years!. We should all be enormously grateful to the Orange County Grand Jury for pointing this out to us so many times over the years and recently so graphically. We should also be so ashamed of the County Supervisors who have let this shelter and it's services deteriorate to this extent. This is supposed to be a service to our residents and pets, yet it was allowed to completely degenerate.
Thank you also to Council Member Kogerman for being so thorough in reading 185 pages of material and digesting it for our residents. Did the other council members mention if they had read all of this material? I imagine that information could have been condensed by Assist. City Mgr. White but was probably an effort to snow the council members, who are otherwise busy, into not reading.
Being 30% understaffed and apparently almost 100% below the level of maintenance required for this facility is beyond a disgrace. Why did White not report these conditions if he's been on the County Shelter's Operational and Financial Board for 7 years??? It appears that White has spent an enormous amount of time telling our City why we should not partner with local animal shelters that have excellent reputations for services and are well maintained. Does White also advocate that our city should not maintain our city facilities to save money and down staff our City Government to the point that we can recognize their services as bad to nonexistent? If this is what he advocates I believe we should begin the down staffing with him.
Apparently White is very selective about who should maintain their facilities and does not consider the County Shelter necessary for residents so why then is he on their Financial and Operational Advisory Board? We need people on that board who can think clearly and make the best decisions for our residents. It appears that he has either had no influence or has not been advocating for needed improvements. We sure hope the majority of our city council members have better sense?!
I listened to the council meeting online and the points Council Member Kogerman made were good ones. Particularly the one about the true cost of service with county once they are staffed up. If Laguna Hills ends up being stuck with county again, there should be a monthly report requested from the county of the number of county animal shelter positions vacant and the titles of these positions so that we can monitor what progress they are making in getting those vacant positions filled.
We should also insist they calculate euthanasia rate of animals the way it is done by ALL other shelters because the way they are doing it is deceptive. Absolutely no shelter includes animals already dead upon impound as part of the large number from which you calculate the percentage of those euthanized.
I would also highly recommend that at least 2 of your more colleagues witness the euthanasia of animals and see the line of dogs going to their death. If that cannot happen, then you should request a list monthly of your animals euthanized and the reasons. (Honestly it may save the life of one of your animals once they are held accountable for their decision to kill an animal).
ALSO: With proper calculation of both dog and cat euthanasia, including puppies and kittens under 8 weeks of age, LH will need to accept that more than half of your animals going to the county shelter will end up dead. (You should also include owner requested euthanasia because owners are forced to sign that form).
The county takes in approximately 200 live animals a year for LH. More than half of those died at the shelter. Some because there was not enough foster care families to care for them or enough donated money to fix their broken bones etc. etc.
So in just the past 10 years since the council turned down Mission Viejo for animal services over 1,000 of your kittens, puppies, cats and dogs were euthanized. MV has a 6% euthanasia rate. So maybe 60 animals over 10 years would have been euthanized if you had gone with MV, because Mission Viejo saves all those babies and save 98% of those injured.
I have been working with the MV for years and I know that the MV Animal Shelter enjoys a great relationship with Laguna Niguel and Aliso Viejo and both of those cities decided it was worth it to pay a little more, if needed, for reliable service and a well maintained animal shelter.
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